Featured Paul mentions that “more than 500” saw the risen Jesus in a single early letter, but included this in no other letters. Why ? ?

[bbyrd009]

And the Centurion is not recorded as being a believer at the time

Then why would he come to Jesus seeking His help, if he didn’t believe? Your argument has no basis.

yet the Bible labels him “Centurion” nonetheless. So i am not seeking to dispute with it, nor you, tbh; we have two somewhat differing accounts of the Centurion, loaded with allegory, but in neither is it indicated that he was a believer, and what with the cult of sol invictus being so prevalent then i would even take exception to the many commentaries that would label him a gentile.

It is usually remarked that he was a respecter of authority, and recognized Jesus’ authority, and i wouldnt debate whether he became a believer later, as would be likely? But to answer your q, he might come to Jesus seeking help simply bc it was his “son,” and no help was forthcoming from anywhere else?

 

[bbyrd009]

Scooter, I thought you were all about the scripture, right?

I absolutely am. But bbyrd indicated Paul did not write that verse. I was asking him for some evidence to support his view and he just quoted the verse.

hopefully i made clear that Paul never said “To be absent…” and not that he didnt write the v

not that i expect you to acknowledge that, either

 

[bbyrd009]

I do know that you cant Quote Jesus returning even once from the Bible

I don’t have time for silly semantic games. Jesus said He would come again. Just because He doesn’t use the word “return” does not negate the fact that He plainly said He would come back.

i am confident that you will see Him come down the same way you saw Him go up, Scooter, but you are also free to stand there looking up into the sky if you prefer

Now, would that mean that you literally would be standing there, looking up into the sky? To you maybe, sure; but that does not mean that there isnt another way to understand that, see

 

[bbyrd009]

i think it goes that samaritans were considered atheists by devout Jews,

No, not at all. The Jews considered Samaritans unclean people and refused to let them worship in the Temple. Therefore the Samaritans worshipped in their own land. Nothing indicates they were atheists.

except in the minds of the contemporary Jews, prolly not, ya

No, apparently just in your mind.

i have a decent treatise on that somewhere, but you have to proceed from your own understanding i guess. I meant to use it as more of a meaningful allegory, a label. But apparently they were widely considered by Jews to be atheists, at least of a sort. Prolly a lot like contemporary devout Jews perceive Christians?

So it is possibly more a commentary on Jews than Samaritans, even, what with Jesus defying the social stricture against interacting with them (which again = death, even for saying “hi”); whether they are atheist or not really isnt the point imo. I would even call them gentiles, but that no longer conveys the “shunned” part idt

 

[Scooter]

yet the Bible labels him “Centurion”

A centurion was a Roman military leader in command of 100 men. It had absolutely nothing to do with his religious beliefs.

 

[bbyrd009]

yet the Bible labels him “Centurion”

A centurion was a Roman military leader in command of 100 men. It had absolutely nothing to do with his religious beliefs.

It had abs nothing to do with his religious beliefs, as far as you know, but really what does that mean, Scooter? Besides that you are gnostic, i mean? No offense but you were completely unaware of the cult of sol until like yesterday, right? Yet it informs every single aspect of your religious (and political, fwiw) experience, to this day, and i mean bar none, you in particular, as a believer in the state religion, breathe cult of sol

That you are unaware of it, or the allegory that Jesus and the Centurion cannot help but represent, is simply a pedantic repetition for me, ok? If you were to ever start seeking i could direct you to some resources, or bam seek them on your own, or dont, i honestly dont really care. It wont change the facts, and more importantly wont change the truth; Apollos waters

Which you are entirely free to keep believing is just some Jew who gained a following that got mentioned by Paul, if you like, and i wont even judge you for that, ok? Yes, it had everything to do with his religious beliefs, which are tied up with his political beliefs, which btw we could even examine his statements, which are somewhat in code but you arent noticing any “I believe in You” type stuff in there now, are you?

It is essentially a challenge, that Jesus takes him up on…well, among other things; there are some essential directions in there for seekers too, but nevermind that for now. If you choose to maintain that he was then currently a follower of Christ, and the exchange was, what, some way to establish that? That is done differently, later, amounts to a mention like it surely deserves, and after all the gist is I have not seen such faith in anyone of Israel, right, meaning that he cannot be a follower of Christ right then, see, since Jesus most of all would adhere to Not all who are born Israel are of Israel. The language would be different iow; were he a follower, he would be Israel to Jesus.

 

[bbyrd009]

Better questions to ask…well, you arent asking any questions i guess huh, since you know everything, but better Qs might be along the lines of why Jesus would even give the time of day to an oppressive occupier, let alone heal their “son,” esp in light of “even dogs get crumbs from the table”

“A centurion was a Roman military leader in command of 100 men“ lol, priceless

 

[Scooter]

yet the Bible labels him “Centurion”

A centurion was a Roman military leader in command of 100 men. It had absolutely nothing to do with his religious beliefs.

It had abs nothing to do with his religious beliefs, as far as you know, but really what does that mean, Scooter? Besides that you are gnostic, i mean? No offense but you were completely unaware of the cult of sol until like yesterday, right? Yet it informs every single aspect of your religious (and political, fwiw) experience, to this day, and i mean bar none, you in particular, as a believer in the state religion, breathe cult of sol

That you are unaware of it, or the allegory that Jesus and the Centurion cannot help but represent, is simply a pedantic repetition for me, ok? If you were to ever start seeking i could direct you to some resources, or bam seek them on your own, or dont, i honestly dont really care. It wont change the facts, and more importantly wont change the truth; Apollos waters

Which you are entirely free to keep believing is just some Jew who gained a following that got mentioned by Paul, if you like, and i wont even judge you for that, ok? Yes, it had everything to do with his religious beliefs, which are tied up with his political beliefs, which btw we could even examine his statements, which are somewhat in code but you arent noticing any “I believe in You” type stuff in there now, are you?

It is essentially a challenge, that Jesus takes him up on…well, among other things; there are some essential directions in there for seekers too, but nevermind that for now. If you choose to maintain that he was then currently a follower of Christ, and the exchange was, what, some way to establish that? That is done differently, later, amounts to a mention like it surely deserves, and after all the gist is I have not seen such faith in anyone of Israel, right, meaning that he cannot be a follower of Christ right then, see, since Jesus most of all would adhere to Not all who are born Israel are of Israel. The language would be different iow; were he a follower, he would be Israel to Jesus.

My friend, I have no idea where you have developed your theology from, but it is not from any traditional Christian views. Some of your posts concerning the Bible are wildly inaccurate. It is very difficult to follow your train of thought on your posts due to your unorthodox beliefs. So you do you; believe what you want. But when you posts inaccurately about the Bible, I will point out the truth. Have a great day.

 

[Scooter]

Better questions to ask…well, you arent asking any questions i guess huh, since you know everything, but better Qs might be along the lines of why Jesus would even give the time of day to an oppressive occupier, let alone heal their “son,” esp in light of “even dogs get crumbs from the table”

“A centurion was a Roman military leader in command of 100 men“ lol, priceless

Jesus helped the Roman centurion’s servant because Jesus loved him. The same reason Jesus helped the Syrophoenician woman’s daughter. The same reason Jesus saved me. Out of love.

 

[bbyrd009]

yet the Bible labels him “Centurion”

A centurion was a Roman military leader in command of 100 men. It had absolutely nothing to do with his religious beliefs.

It had abs nothing to do with his religious beliefs, as far as you know, but really what does that mean, Scooter? Besides that you are gnostic, i mean? No offense but you were completely unaware of the cult of sol until like yesterday, right? Yet it informs every single aspect of your religious (and political, fwiw) experience, to this day, and i mean bar none, you in particular, as a believer in the state religion, breathe cult of sol

That you are unaware of it, or the allegory that Jesus and the Centurion cannot help but represent, is simply a pedantic repetition for me, ok? If you were to ever start seeking i could direct you to some resources, or bam seek them on your own, or dont, i honestly dont really care. It wont change the facts, and more importantly wont change the truth; Apollos waters

Which you are entirely free to keep believing is just some Jew who gained a following that got mentioned by Paul, if you like, and i wont even judge you for that, ok? Yes, it had everything to do with his religious beliefs, which are tied up with his political beliefs, which btw we could even examine his statements, which are somewhat in code but you arent noticing any “I believe in You” type stuff in there now, are you?

It is essentially a challenge, that Jesus takes him up on…well, among other things; there are some essential directions in there for seekers too, but nevermind that for now. If you choose to maintain that he was then currently a follower of Christ, and the exchange was, what, some way to establish that? That is done differently, later, amounts to a mention like it surely deserves, and after all the gist is I have not seen such faith in anyone of Israel, right, meaning that he cannot be a follower of Christ right then, see, since Jesus most of all would adhere to Not all who are born Israel are of Israel. The language would be different iow; were he a follower, he would be Israel to Jesus.

My friend, I have no idea where you have developed your theology from, but it is not from any traditional Christian views.

They were first called Christians at Antioch, so ty

Some of your posts concerning the Bible are wildly inaccurate. It is very difficult to follow your train of thought on your posts due to your unorthodox beliefs. So you do you; believe what you want. But when you posts inaccurately about the Bible, I will point out the truth.

Ok, ill be waiting. For the witnesses, i mean

Have a great day.

No sweat Scooter, you too