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Paul mentions that “more than 500” saw the risen Jesus in a single early letter, but included this in no other letters. Why ? ?

Multicolored Lemur
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Why did Paul not give more of the details. For example, why didn’t Paul write something like: I was told by ________ , a believer I have the highest respect for. And he had long, heartfelt discussions with __ different persons who were there. And although we might sometimes wish for more, to have heart-to-heart discussions with __ is better than superficial discussions with a greater number.

But there’s nothing like this.

We just get the sparse claim of “After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, . . “ No time, no place, no name or a person. And in other places in his writings, Paul does include the names of persons.

Why did Paul not include this claim in any of his later writings?
AgnosticBoy

Who wrote the Gospel of Mark?

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A member said this regarding the authorship of Mark's Gospel:
I find it amazing how early church fathers, who lived within one generation from the original writing, accept the authorship of Mark, but modern "scholars", two millennia removed, reject Mark as the author.

I'll leave it up for the members to discuss this.

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Who wrote the Gospel of Mark? Please also explain the reason and evidence behind your view.
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The Gospel of Mark successfully reconciles 2 different versions of the Miracle of Loaves and Fishes

Multicolored Lemur
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Chapter 8 —
19 When I brake the five loaves among five thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? They say unto him, Twelve.

20 And when the seven among four thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? And they said, Seven.
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Two different miracles, two different numbers, no problem.

And yet —

When I attended a fundamentalist church from age 12 to age 17, the fact that this miracle was repeated was never mentioned. Not one single time. As if individual Christians found this embarrassing.

As an analogy, if your a lawyer and there are facts damaging to your client, you need to be the one to tell the jury. For example, if your client lied to the police because he was afraid, you probably need to start talking about this during jury selection. Maybe start with the first five jurors, ask them, Are you going to assume that because someone lied to the police that they’re automatically guilty?
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Immigration slightly decreased during President Trump and slightly increased during President Biden — or maybe not. < Different Sources! >

Multicolored Lemur
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All this thunder about slight changes. The big change was from 1990 to 2007. All the same . . .
AgnosticBoy

Does Josephus mention Jesus?

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I've heard many Christian apologists and even some non-Christians claim that Josephus's writings confirm Jesus's existence. I can agree with them that if Josephus wrote about Jesus, then that would serve as corroborating and independent source for Jesus's existence. The problem that I run into is that looking up this topic brings up mixed results. Some sources support the claim, while others completely deny the authenticity of Josephus references to Jesus.

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