Featured writings of Paul have a lot of repeating as if an honest editor . . . . Plus was Christ and Resurrection first believed to happen in Heaven ? ??

[bbyrd009]

the Bible forwards many Buddhists principles, Jesus even invokes “the way.”

Could you please explain what you mean by this?

Well, when He says I am the way, the truth, and the life, mainly. Today is brought out more by Paul i guess, although Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever, i think? Also I die daily, although thats subtly diff from a Buddhist perspective, its still the same concept i think. He who says that he knows anything does not yet know it as he ought could be considered a critique of Buddhism prolly, as is works wont save you, but Dont be too good or too bad, or iow “middle way” is expressed a couple diff ways

Unknown God in Jonah and a couple other spots, Why do you ask My Name? And many others i guess, a search of “Jesus and Buddhism” gives a bunch of hits, books on the subject even, over and above the “Jesus went to India” bit, wikipedia even has a page on it. What struck me the most is you notice how no one ever disagrees with Tao or Buddhist stories? Yet pretty much everyone disagrees with Bible stories?

Idt thats unintentional; seems quite deliberate. Reincarnation is rejected, but also suggested, etc, so also a divergence from Buddhist or Dao thought, which to me more truthfully expresses our position, since we dont really know. But even soul as, in truth, breath, although soul has a diff definition to us now.

The Soul in Buddhism

philosophical treatment of Buddhist metaphysics and ontology

www.arrowriver.ca

Buddhism actually supposedly has a prob with agnosticism, as you might see in the link, but then their definition of agnostic is maybe a little strict? So we have this weird thing where Buddhists reveal beliefs where they say they have none, and tbh it can even get funny, like talking to an atheist about beliefs, where you start to realize that they mostly have an aversion to the term, although they def have beliefs? But on that note, praising Samaritans might be considered Buddhist, sort of.

But my point there was that the Bible actually downplays beliefs, although that is harder to illustrate since beliefs are so often conflated with faith now, but OT there are five diff kinds of belief, five also surely being intentional, and we can notice how beliefs are so often turned into Absolute Truths by believers? Iow beliefs, which by def should be subject to examination, cannot be examined?

Which is refuted in the Bible many diff ways, subtle, but “God can make believers out of rocks,” at least paraphrased, and several others, Test everything, and keep what is good, etc

Become one as we are one too i guess, And many of Paul’s refutes of Greek gnosticism could also be considered commentary on Buddhism

 

[Multicolored Lemur]

the Bible actually downplays beliefs,

For example, the parts in which Jesus emphasizes going ahead and doing the good deed. And by implication, the doer not worrying so much about their own personal piety and their own personal beliefs.

My note — It takes some skill to help a person in a manner in which they can maintain their dignity.

 

[Multicolored Lemur]

And I’ll criticize Buddhism —

It’s a depressive philosophy. It’s all about taking away desire so you won’t be hurt. I’d rather take the chance of being hurt.

And Buddha himself was probably a seriously depressed individual trapped in an arranged marriage. And his wife was probably a decent enough person who tried, and who took care of their kids.

Buddha had done everything asked of him. He had bee. good and he had followed the rules, and outwardly, he was prosperous. But miserably unhappy, and it didn’t make any sense.

The only move oprn to him was to leave in a religious quest.

I’m guessing that was somewhat socially acceptable. And I’m guessing his family had enough money that his wife and children were taken care of. And hopefully, there was an extended family of Aunts and Uncles, brothers and sisters, Grandmas and Grandpas to help with the children.

 

[Scooter]

But my point there was that the Bible actually downplays beliefs, although that is harder to illustrate since beliefs are so often conflated with faith now, but OT there are five diff kinds of belief,

Really? Please explain what these five beliefs are.

 

[bbyrd009]

the Bible actually downplays beliefs,

For example, the parts in which Jesus emphasizes going ahead and doing the good deed. And by implication, the doer not worrying so much about their own personal piety and their own personal beliefs.

My note — It takes some skill to help a person in a manner in which they can maintain their dignity.

ya, i guess im pretty oblivious there lol

 

[bbyrd009]

But my point there was that the Bible actually downplays beliefs, although that is harder to illustrate since beliefs are so often conflated with faith now, but OT there are five diff kinds of belief,

Really? Please explain what these five beliefs are.

ah, been a while…i used to have a thing on that…but you can (eventually) find them here, https://biblescan.com/search.php?q=OT+belief, by clicking LEX for the orig Hebrew…or at least you could if the site was acting right lol

i do recall Abraham’s belief ends up being quite conditional, which adds some depth to it was counted to him as faith. He was like Babylonian, after all, from Ur, so even his conditional belief was quite an evolution i guess

 

[Multicolored Lemur]

ya, i guess im pretty oblivious there lol

As far as helping someone in need in a manner which lets them keep their dignity . . .

i think we’re all pretty unskilled at that.

 

[Multicolored Lemur]

i do recall Abraham’s belief ends up being quite conditional, which adds some depth to it was counted to him as faith.

Not at Christians, but more often evangelical Christians make a really big deal about God’s love being supposedly “unconditional.” As if they struggle with it from time to time.

And if God sends people to hell for what they do, much less what they believe, yeah, that sounds pretty conditional to me!

Evangelicals will say, well, the person wanted to flee God and they finally got what they wanted, etc, etc.

No, the person may have had bad experiences with religion and may now just be doing things largely on their own.

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At the very least, the Apostle Paul gave his letters out loud to a scribe, which is an imperfect process. And the scribe’s trying to be grammatical. As I guess Paul is, too, in measuring his words. And paper is expensive. So if there’s a minor problem, we probably skip the rewrite.

And yet, some Christians, not all, will hang on every word.

 

[Scooter]

But my point there was that the Bible actually downplays beliefs, although that is harder to illustrate since beliefs are so often conflated with faith now, but OT there are five diff kinds of belief,

Really? Please explain what these five beliefs are.

ah, been a while…i used to have a thing on that…but you can (eventually) find them here, https://biblescan.com/search.php?q=OT+belief, by clicking LEX for the orig Hebrew…or at least you could if the site was acting right lol

i do recall Abraham’s belief ends up being quite conditional, which adds some depth to it was counted to him as faith. He was like Babylonian, after all, from Ur, so even his conditional belief was quite an evolution i guess

I went to the link and I don’t see anything that remotely supports your claim of five different beliefs in the OT. You tend to make claims about the Bible that you cannot confirm.

 

[Scooter]

No, the person may have had bad experiences with religion and may now just be doing things largely on their own.

Religion does send people to Hell. God does not want religion, He wants a relationship with people. Most people don’t want a relationship with God.