Featured Paul mentions that “more than 500” saw the risen Jesus in a single early letter, but included this in no other letters. Why ? ?

[Scooter]

its where we get “church” on Sunday—took over a hundred years, and thousands of Christian deaths, apparently

No, actually the church started meeting on Sunday because Jesus arose on the first day of the week. I am not connected to the Catholic Church in any way as far as I know.

 

[bbyrd009]

its where we get “church” on Sunday—took over a hundred years, and thousands of Christian deaths, apparently

No, actually the church started meeting on Sunday because Jesus arose on the first day of the week. I am not connected to the Catholic Church in any way as far as I know.

ok buddy, go with that if you like, fine with me

 

[Scooter]

ok buddy, go with that if you like, fine with me

Hahaha…well since you claim to know nothing, I think I’ll go with what is known.

 

[bbyrd009]

ok buddy, go with that if you like, fine with me

Hahaha…well since you claim to know nothing, I think I’ll go with what is known.

bc everything you have purported to know here so far has turned out to be so accurate, right?
lol

ok, best of luck to you ok

 

[bbyrd009]

I guess my talking points so far are —

There are plenty of different meanings within life.

The “Utilitarian” ethics of John Stuart Mill are a pretty good example of ethics without religion.

Jesus clowned the religious of His day, and praised the atheist (samaritan) and the pagan (roman centurion), so, ya

(Try to do a lot of good in a lot of different ways.) is supposed to be in your post, but whenever i erase it the next one moves up here lol

The Bible is worthy of the same respect as an ancient book, like Shakespeare, but not more so.

Well i def wouldnt suggest blindly worshipping it, but it is hard to hear by design, and what one is able to hear gets involved. As we have recently witnessed, i guess. But Paul even tells us that All writings are God-breathed, in the often mistranslated v in…idk, Timothy or somewhere? Which might apply to Shakespeare, although idk about most of today’s fiction so much, that is a relatively recent genre

The OT has plenty of lying, though; they just lied in a different way, by exaggeration, called “conquest genre.” Which no longer searches like it did even three years ago, strangely, but survives in our sports writing; “The Yankees slaughter the Mets” who died?

so, i had a little luck searching “genre writing, ancient conquest” which has to be searched that way bc of some pc game called “ancient conquest,” but one extraction might be that we have accounts of pharaohs “completely annihilating to the last man” some foreign culture two or even three times, i guess

The Bible actually has a lot of problems, but then, I guess so does Shakespeare.

i suggest that any problems in the Bible are perceived rather than actual, and it should pay dividends to delve deeper into them, as they are often indicators of where wisdom might be lacking. Usually some meme has been misidentified, i think? Often by the religious, and their definition has just been accepted, which i could easily fill this page with stuff like that, Yah judging us at literal death, etc Furthermore, the Father judges no one…or Who Jesus is, really, stuff like that

If the Bible seems wrong to you at some point, you might seek the opposite of whatever concept you find wrong, as it is likely to be in there somewhere too

 

[Multicolored Lemur]

Anyway, “5” and “100” are not that hard to figure out imo

Maybe you could explain a little more about these numbers?

For me, I raise an eyebrow that we have 12 Tribes and 12 Disciples, perhaps an echo of the 12 Astrological Signs?

In both these cases, I don’t want to make too much of it because I think we have much more sure-footed criticism of the various books of the Bible.

 

[Scooter]

bc everything you have purported to know here so far has turned out to be so accurate, right?
lol

It has. Not one of my beliefs has been disproven. Luck has nothing to do with it.

 

[Scooter]

Jesus clowned the religious of His day, and praised the atheist (samaritan) and the pagan (roman centurion), so, ya

This is completely inaccurate. The Samaritans were not atheists. And the Roman Centurion came to Jesus as a believer. I recommend you fact check your posts. That will keep me from having to do it for you.

 

[bbyrd009]

Anyway, “5” and “100” are not that hard to figure out imo

Maybe you could explain a little more about these numbers?

well youd prolly get more reliable information by just typing “five” and “one hundred” into a Bible engine, but five is generally considered to be a number that reps something like “hand” whereas man is six, so a kind of reflection of man, maybe. Five is usually equated with grace, i think, which might initially make little sense in ref to hand, but tbh your understanding of some of the numbers kinda takes on nuances after seeking more, and there is a fair amount of debate as to what a certain number even reps.

So with six being man (probably), you kinda have to first work out why 6 instead of 5? One conclusion being 5+1, bc humans always want more; so 5 might come to be seen as a human without that proclivity, but not yet 7. A seeker, maybe. Equated with grace bc grace is always put as a relationship to humans, maybe

“One hundred” is, strangely, in the NT exactly 100 times, and usually equated with the seed that produces 100 fold, so to our minds “a copious amount,” but i guess also considered 10x10, or sometimes completeness

For me, I raise an eyebrow that we have 12 Tribes and 12 Disciples, perhaps an echo of the 12 Astrological Signs?

probably? I have found 12 to be a way to say “all in all,” but there are other interps

In both these cases, I don’t want to make too much of it because I think we have much more sure-footed criticism of the various books of the Bible.

ya, problem is we just really dont have access to how they would have been understood by a contemporary? And tbh i dont spend a lot of time in gematria or stuff like numbers anymore; i just kind of try and let what the author was trying to say in code impress itself upon me, and take it for granted that i might not be accurate; but i would hear “500” diff than say 6 or 700

 

[Scooter]

The OT has plenty of lying, though; they just lied in a different way, by exaggeration, called “conquest genre.”

I started a thread concerning Biblical contradictions but you have yet to post anything. Also feel free to present any lies contained in the OT. If you cannot offer any lies contained in the Bible, I suggest you retract your statement.