Nobs: But as you bring up theist/non-theist, I do tend to see more complaining (mad?) theists than not. At least on here. I haven't thought of that much lately, really (maybe it's happened so much it's become background noise...?). But it is something to consider, perhaps.
William: It does not appear - from a non-bias position - that theists are more angry than non-theists .
Humans are humans and there is a history of violent furious reaction to the situation we are in.
Because we are effectively trapped in our individuate states, yet nature Herself makes it that we cannot survive independently of each other, this apparent contradiction feeds those fires of discontentment.
What we have learned so far from the experience, is that we can accommodate some semblance of calm by 'finding our individual place' among the "like-minded" which allows a respite of sorts where we can get about whatever purpose we have tasked for our self - but I think by and large the anger still bubbles away under the surface...because we haven't figured any way in which to gather the groups together...and so all we are left with, is gathering the troops together...
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050422
This is indicative of actual justice
William: Yes. And on a planetary scale, specific to humanity, if we cannot sort out our differences and get our stuff together, and that results in extinction at our own hands, "that is actual justice".
On the other hand, if we do, then that is also actual justice.
SCLx13+last LE per shuffle
Compass of Divine Insight - Vagitus - Upon Further, Deeper Inspection - GameMakers - Free-spirit - Creative - Written In The Clouds - Stay in the moment - The Heart of a Buddha - Existence - Reform/Refine - Experiences. - Jocular
William: The belief in a mindless Planet/Universe creates the hard problem of consciousness by refusing to deal with said problem using the mind as the very instrument in order to do so.
RSP = B&E select P&P + Related line entries [re]
SCL1 AP = The Screen
William: "The Screen" and "The Mind" are synonymous
7:09
Mind’s Eye
We experience fear in order to give us the opportunity to overcome that which triggers the fear
The Great Green Wall
Jocular
The Screen
An infinitesimal object germinated
William: Yes - this universe could be regarded as a Screen on which the thoughts of an intelligent creative entity, are projected upon. The "Big Bang" could be considered to be the initial thought which started it all, and the unfolding universe [re objects and minds] are the ongoing thoughts being had...
The very idea does create fear - especially in those who resist the idea - it is the very resistance which is a manifested reaction of the fear itself.
The exclamation that science can be done without any requirement to think the universe is the ongoing result of a chain of thought from an unknown 'God' entity, does not in itself refute the notion as being 'fantasy'.
GM: Nature
Being 'born of the spirit' is really about coming to the realization of what one truly is rather than remaining in ignorance of that.
Interesting Data
Pollution
Sharing data,
Control
Who/What/When/Where/Why/How
Mother Earth Harmony ~
The Thalamocortical System
Infinity
William: My search for The Thalamocortical System finds this:
The thalamus and cerebral cortex collectively. These parts of the brain are so closely and reciprocally interconnected—especially in mammals—that they are often treated as a single system. Normal functioning of this system appears to be necessary for conscious experiences and voluntary actions. During waking states, groups of neurons in this system exhibit a pattern of continuous firing. During states of reduced consciousness, such as deep sleep, the entire system goes into an oscillatory mode characterized by neuronal burst–pause firing.
William: In regard to 'infinity' is that to say that the background nature of infinity field is similar to how a brains works, in that not all the brain is lit up and the firing 'groups' of neurons can be likened to our universe...Galaxies are like unto firing groups of neurons re this particular mind.
GM: Light Encoded Reality Matrix
All present and correct
Point/Focus
"Memorised vows enchanted by tune before the great minstrel the fair maidens swoon we came to our senses as we left the cocoon"
Narcissism
"Imposed Appropriates Observed"
Intelligent Directions
"Be kind to yourself"
"We can chart another trail - Raise the anchor fill the sails Lift our glasses in a toast - We are the Ghost - In the Machine"
Telling the future
Vibration
Where life and death is part of a circle and everything is part of the Ouroboros
Expectant
"The Script Must Be Followed"
Nontheists may well be the ones who have placed interposing barriers which ensure that their view is cut off - and this might be achieved through willful ignorance.
William: Refusal to acknowledge mindfulness as part of the overall reason for the universe existing and we existing as individuate minds within it.
Interposing - place or insert between one thing and another.
GM: Pertinent
Humdrum
Exciting Changes Would Develop Naturally Enough From That
Reality Simulation
More
Pulse
"Develop a basic, fact-based view first and then ask the question."
Arcadian
Watchful
To
Graphic Changes
Remind
Internal Triggering
Remaining Unbiased
Contemplate
William: How to effectively deal with anger...not by ignoring it, but through understanding it and developing means by which it - as an externalized emotional-based energy - can be transformed into something more appropriate to the situation we find ourselves lost within.
GM: Families
Rulers
Brow Chakra
William: Enforced rules/rulers through Narcissism
GM: Crazy Diamonds
Contemplative
Look For The Significance
Coordinate
William: "Be kind to yourself"
"We can chart another trail - Raise the anchor fill the sails Lift our glasses in a toast - We are the Ghost - In the Machine"
GM: Insecure
Spring Loaded
Belief Helps Cause Separation
I Digress...
William: My doing - I keep finding a word in edgewise because I feel prompted to ... please continue...
GM: The “Clamp”
Re The Heart Virtues - This is mapping created by humans to explain the developing necessity of survival in an environment which is hostile toward biological life-form.
William: Sooooo....whereas "Spring-loaded" describes the workings of a trap "Clamp" describes a trap which has been triggered...and caught 'something'...
GM: "Teddy Naysayer"
William: Is attempting to avoid the trap set, not fully realizing that being in the universe already, is "The Trap"
Discussing the Data
The Word and List Strings
*Nods*
All The World
The Attitude
"Even so, I have full appreciation for your efforts, because even incorrect peer review is better than indifference."
Nurture You
...because death comes a-knockin' eventually...
Expression
Self-validation
Unprecedented
Lucidity
Being Born
William: The link leads to a post I wrote;
Recapping Event
What I am learning from this MGSystem is that "it" is not about me or you but about allowing for opportunity for any otherwise intelligent consciousnesses to impute their intelligence into the mix.
Re non-theists who are opposed to the idea of their being an overall mind behind [invisible/not easy to detect in] our visible Universe - I would say that they do themselves a disservice in resisting contact with said mind.
The way I have come to understand things re the nature of our shared reality - is that in opting for the theory of evolution with the addition of realization of the invisible mind, exposes the enormity of said mind re the time/space said mind has had to develop within.
Alongside that, is the realization that something which initially started out as one thing, became many things - so many things that trying to place a number as to how many things - is pointless.
Clearly fragmentation occurred as the mind developed - as can be seen in the evidence of the things themselves.
So the Galaxies became "Gods" and the Gods produced off-spring which are the Suns and planets continually forming - from beginnings to middles and to ends - and in doing so, providing the parent-Gods with Data of Experience.
I don't pretend to know what it is in the way of evidence that non-theists want in order to convince them to become theists.
But I do know that this evidence I am presenting, should be enough for anyone to seriously think about changing the way they see the world.
GM: “Humility means accepting reality with no attempt to outsmart it.”
Old
Ouija
"There Is Good Out There"
"Everything is a Message"
Hypnagogic
William:You are once more referring to The Ancient Grey Entity...
GM: The Great I Am
Do A=1
All = 107 [The Great I Am]
Navigator
The Greys
Military
The Point
Happiness
Lyricus
Feel Be Still.
Quantum
Measuring
Each morning
Optimum
Researching
The Great I Am
Reflection
Visions
Here-and-now
GM: Validation
Life is a journey
Green Chemistry
Zones of Sensitivity
Look For the Significance
www.sciencealert.com
Equanimous [calm and composed.]
Ensures You Get To Know It
Truthfulness
"End Of Story" As The Saying Goes
Evidence We Actively Collect
Good on you mate
Keeping Things In Perspective
Ness
The Void
William: "Ness" like unto "The Dragon In My Garage" [added to the ComList] and "The Void" as the infinite backdrop which is the Mind-Screen that thoughts are projected upon.
"Folk get so hung up about the little stuff" - the "big stuff" is the antedate to that
GM: "Do Not Panic"
For anyone to say otherwise, would be unwise in the face of such evidence
Peaceful Messiah or militant Messiah?
Intelligence with Wisdom
Like eons of sedimentary build-up - for the most part it appears that those codes are largely deactivated - 'fossilized' in a sense. Forgotten in relation to the grand scheme. A Child without any known Parent.
Hunters
"The Brother"
Sovereign Integral Network
Strange
Why?
Inner work
Idiosyncratic [peculiar or individual.]
Noetics [concerned with the study of mind as well as intellect.]
The validity of subjective experience
William: *nods appreciatively*
8:29
William: It does not appear - from a non-bias position - that theists are more angry than non-theists .
Humans are humans and there is a history of violent furious reaction to the situation we are in.
Because we are effectively trapped in our individuate states, yet nature Herself makes it that we cannot survive independently of each other, this apparent contradiction feeds those fires of discontentment.
What we have learned so far from the experience, is that we can accommodate some semblance of calm by 'finding our individual place' among the "like-minded" which allows a respite of sorts where we can get about whatever purpose we have tasked for our self - but I think by and large the anger still bubbles away under the surface...because we haven't figured any way in which to gather the groups together...and so all we are left with, is gathering the troops together...
_____________________________________________
050422
This is indicative of actual justice
William: Yes. And on a planetary scale, specific to humanity, if we cannot sort out our differences and get our stuff together, and that results in extinction at our own hands, "that is actual justice".
On the other hand, if we do, then that is also actual justice.
SCLx13+last LE per shuffle
Compass of Divine Insight - Vagitus - Upon Further, Deeper Inspection - GameMakers - Free-spirit - Creative - Written In The Clouds - Stay in the moment - The Heart of a Buddha - Existence - Reform/Refine - Experiences. - Jocular
William: The belief in a mindless Planet/Universe creates the hard problem of consciousness by refusing to deal with said problem using the mind as the very instrument in order to do so.
RSP = B&E select P&P + Related line entries [re]
SCL1 AP = The Screen
William: "The Screen" and "The Mind" are synonymous
7:09
Mind’s Eye
We experience fear in order to give us the opportunity to overcome that which triggers the fear
The Great Green Wall
Jocular
The Screen
An infinitesimal object germinated
William: Yes - this universe could be regarded as a Screen on which the thoughts of an intelligent creative entity, are projected upon. The "Big Bang" could be considered to be the initial thought which started it all, and the unfolding universe [re objects and minds] are the ongoing thoughts being had...
The very idea does create fear - especially in those who resist the idea - it is the very resistance which is a manifested reaction of the fear itself.
The exclamation that science can be done without any requirement to think the universe is the ongoing result of a chain of thought from an unknown 'God' entity, does not in itself refute the notion as being 'fantasy'.
GM: Nature
Being 'born of the spirit' is really about coming to the realization of what one truly is rather than remaining in ignorance of that.
Interesting Data
Pollution
Sharing data,
Control
Who/What/When/Where/Why/How
Mother Earth Harmony ~
The Thalamocortical System
Infinity
William: My search for The Thalamocortical System finds this:
The thalamus and cerebral cortex collectively. These parts of the brain are so closely and reciprocally interconnected—especially in mammals—that they are often treated as a single system. Normal functioning of this system appears to be necessary for conscious experiences and voluntary actions. During waking states, groups of neurons in this system exhibit a pattern of continuous firing. During states of reduced consciousness, such as deep sleep, the entire system goes into an oscillatory mode characterized by neuronal burst–pause firing.
William: In regard to 'infinity' is that to say that the background nature of infinity field is similar to how a brains works, in that not all the brain is lit up and the firing 'groups' of neurons can be likened to our universe...Galaxies are like unto firing groups of neurons re this particular mind.
GM: Light Encoded Reality Matrix
All present and correct
Point/Focus
"Memorised vows enchanted by tune before the great minstrel the fair maidens swoon we came to our senses as we left the cocoon"
Narcissism
"Imposed Appropriates Observed"
Intelligent Directions
"Be kind to yourself"
"We can chart another trail - Raise the anchor fill the sails Lift our glasses in a toast - We are the Ghost - In the Machine"
Telling the future
Vibration
Where life and death is part of a circle and everything is part of the Ouroboros
Expectant
"The Script Must Be Followed"
Nontheists may well be the ones who have placed interposing barriers which ensure that their view is cut off - and this might be achieved through willful ignorance.
William: Refusal to acknowledge mindfulness as part of the overall reason for the universe existing and we existing as individuate minds within it.
Interposing - place or insert between one thing and another.
GM: Pertinent
Humdrum
Exciting Changes Would Develop Naturally Enough From That
Reality Simulation
More
Pulse
"Develop a basic, fact-based view first and then ask the question."
Arcadian
Watchful
To
Graphic Changes
Remind
Internal Triggering
Remaining Unbiased
Contemplate
William: How to effectively deal with anger...not by ignoring it, but through understanding it and developing means by which it - as an externalized emotional-based energy - can be transformed into something more appropriate to the situation we find ourselves lost within.
GM: Families
Rulers
Brow Chakra
William: Enforced rules/rulers through Narcissism
GM: Crazy Diamonds
Contemplative
Look For The Significance
Coordinate
William: "Be kind to yourself"
"We can chart another trail - Raise the anchor fill the sails Lift our glasses in a toast - We are the Ghost - In the Machine"
GM: Insecure
Spring Loaded
Belief Helps Cause Separation
I Digress...
William: My doing - I keep finding a word in edgewise because I feel prompted to ... please continue...
GM: The “Clamp”
Re The Heart Virtues - This is mapping created by humans to explain the developing necessity of survival in an environment which is hostile toward biological life-form.
William: Sooooo....whereas "Spring-loaded" describes the workings of a trap "Clamp" describes a trap which has been triggered...and caught 'something'...
GM: "Teddy Naysayer"
William: Is attempting to avoid the trap set, not fully realizing that being in the universe already, is "The Trap"
Discussing the Data
Generating Messages - Page 8 - Debating Christianity and Religion
debatingchristianity.com
*Nods*
All The World
The Attitude
"Even so, I have full appreciation for your efforts, because even incorrect peer review is better than indifference."
Nurture You
...because death comes a-knockin' eventually...
Expression
Self-validation
Unprecedented
Lucidity
Being Born
William: The link leads to a post I wrote;
Recapping Event
What I am learning from this MGSystem is that "it" is not about me or you but about allowing for opportunity for any otherwise intelligent consciousnesses to impute their intelligence into the mix.
Re non-theists who are opposed to the idea of their being an overall mind behind [invisible/not easy to detect in] our visible Universe - I would say that they do themselves a disservice in resisting contact with said mind.
The way I have come to understand things re the nature of our shared reality - is that in opting for the theory of evolution with the addition of realization of the invisible mind, exposes the enormity of said mind re the time/space said mind has had to develop within.
Alongside that, is the realization that something which initially started out as one thing, became many things - so many things that trying to place a number as to how many things - is pointless.
Clearly fragmentation occurred as the mind developed - as can be seen in the evidence of the things themselves.
So the Galaxies became "Gods" and the Gods produced off-spring which are the Suns and planets continually forming - from beginnings to middles and to ends - and in doing so, providing the parent-Gods with Data of Experience.
I don't pretend to know what it is in the way of evidence that non-theists want in order to convince them to become theists.
But I do know that this evidence I am presenting, should be enough for anyone to seriously think about changing the way they see the world.
GM: “Humility means accepting reality with no attempt to outsmart it.”
Old
Ouija
"There Is Good Out There"
"Everything is a Message"
Hypnagogic
William:You are once more referring to The Ancient Grey Entity...
GM: The Great I Am
Do A=1
All = 107 [The Great I Am]
Navigator
The Greys
Military
The Point
Happiness
Lyricus
Feel Be Still.
Quantum
Measuring
Each morning
Optimum
Researching
The Great I Am
Reflection
Visions
Here-and-now
GM: Validation
Life is a journey
Green Chemistry
Zones of Sensitivity
Look For the Significance
Physics Breakthrough as AI Successfully Controls Plasma in Nuclear Fusion Experiment
Successfully achieving nuclear fusion holds the promise of delivering a limitless, sustainable source of clean energy, but we can only realize this incredible dream if we can master the complex physics taking place inside the reactor.
www.sciencealert.com
Ensures You Get To Know It
Truthfulness
"End Of Story" As The Saying Goes
Evidence We Actively Collect
Good on you mate
Keeping Things In Perspective
Ness
The Void
William: "Ness" like unto "The Dragon In My Garage" [added to the ComList] and "The Void" as the infinite backdrop which is the Mind-Screen that thoughts are projected upon.
"Folk get so hung up about the little stuff" - the "big stuff" is the antedate to that
GM: "Do Not Panic"
For anyone to say otherwise, would be unwise in the face of such evidence
Peaceful Messiah or militant Messiah?
Intelligence with Wisdom
Like eons of sedimentary build-up - for the most part it appears that those codes are largely deactivated - 'fossilized' in a sense. Forgotten in relation to the grand scheme. A Child without any known Parent.
Hunters
"The Brother"
Sovereign Integral Network
Strange
Why?
Inner work
Idiosyncratic [peculiar or individual.]
Noetics [concerned with the study of mind as well as intellect.]
The validity of subjective experience
William: *nods appreciatively*
8:29
