Faith - 2
070123 [Especially the science of "randomness"... ]
05:32 [Beyond a shadow of a doubt]
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Universal Intelligence
Clearing the jungle while planting the forest...
Control
One Day
Religion
Intelligent Awareness
Etched mirror
Nurture You
Content
William: Etched mirror Nurture You Content Intelligent Awareness = 637
[637]
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The Neutral Zone is the vaster reality of non-judgementalism
GM: https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1087251#p1087251
William: FTL;
GM: Faith
Something Mystical To Be In Awe Of
Christ is the doorway to YHVH - not the whole building of YHVH.
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Meeting an Extraterrestrial Before The Beginning
Sounds Like
Greed Techniques
All The Same
Present over perfect
William: This reminds me of an interaction yesterday on the forum;
William:
GM:
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William: FTL; Re: The Seed of Origin
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Context
Faith
It is a confident walk on the even surface of sureness, without the faith.
William: FTL;
GM: Dharma [the eternal and inherent nature of reality, regarded in Hinduism as a cosmic law underlying right behaviour and social order. The nature of reality regarded as a universal truth taught by the Buddha; the teaching of Buddhism. an aspect of truth or reality.]
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William: FTL;
GM: Random coincidence? I think not.
William: FTL;
GM: "Attempting to overlay/superimpose one's belief in the truth of stories as being more truthful than the main overall story itself, is possibly an act of immorality, if indeed - upon further evidence - one continues to attempt to have the superimposed thing used to conceal the real."
06:43
[The Future is Cloudy
Un-thought-unately
Functional Clusters
Error Correcting Codes
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Ruling your world
They were made to be unmade
More precious than life
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For The Best Results
Look from a different angle
Hyper-normalisation
Chronological snobbery
Enough To Make Me Wonder]
070123 [Especially the science of "randomness"... ]
05:32 [Beyond a shadow of a doubt]
GM: Concomitant Power [Concomitant - a phenomenon that naturally accompanies or follows something.]
Universal Intelligence
Clearing the jungle while planting the forest...
Control
One Day
Religion
Intelligent Awareness
Etched mirror
Nurture You
Content
William: Etched mirror Nurture You Content Intelligent Awareness = 637
[637]
Heart Love Higher Self Dream Guide Sharing Data Raise your frequency
The Neutral Zone is the vaster reality of non-judgementalism
GM: https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1087251#p1087251
William: FTL;
William: Philo2;
The Freedom of Self-creation—[T]hese life principles are the tools to
accelerate the emergence of the Sovereign Integral and feel its perspective, its insights,
and its empowered abilities to create new realities and shape them as learning
adventures that liberate and expand consciousness.
1. There is no model of existence outside of the model of self-creation.
2. All conditions of existence are facets of the one condition of the reality of
unlimited self-creation.
3. Having a physical body does not limit you, anymore than having legs on an
eagle prevents it from flying.
4. The hidden harmony is found with joy, while the obvious brings indifference.
5. True Freedom is access to First Source.
If you have already read the introduction to the four philosophies and the Chamber
Two paper “The Shifting Models of Existence” you know that the Entity Model is the
primary model operating in the universe. So the first two items above give us pause.
Can there be two primary models? It does not seem so according to the philosophy
papers, but so much of the Lyricus teachings are new to us that it is being spoon-fed
to us so that we can digest it and integrate it into our view of the multiverse.
{SOURCE}William: From my own ongoing interactions with The Ghost, I have been informed that It is not angry, and that we would do well to transform our own anger into something more supportive of Its agenda in the scheme of things, that we might fall into line and make things much easier for ourselves.
Meantime, things are going along "just fine" re The Ghost Agenda as human beings have been suppressed sufficiently that they have become more useful to said agenda, and "leveled up" as a result, allowing for The Ghost Agenda to be magnified through scientific discover and the technology this has produced.William: The bits I have read haven't dissuaded me from being curious about such an entity as YHWH - and I admit I did go through a stage of thinking he was Satan - which I think is acceptable given the scribed association...but I got over that through the assistance of a hypnogogic experience which brought that being to my bedside...
Not to digress any more than necessary, I can see why YHWH left it up to humans to tell their stories re their interactions with said entity...so the stories would be different and it is obvious that YHWH works with whoever makes themselves available and this would have to involve working within the boundaries of the individuals belief systems - something which could indeed give a reader the impression of contradiction...
I give the benefit of doubt re that, and try not to focus on any particular biblical personality as 'the one' who had the ultimate relationship with YHWH - while also allowing for Jesus' claims contrary to that, to be examined.
Above all that - what the Generated Messages are revealing about YHWH appear to be very positive - so I am all eyes and ears re that...
GM: Faith
Something Mystical To Be In Awe Of
Christ is the doorway to YHVH - not the whole building of YHVH.
Enlighten Discussion Forum
Meeting an Extraterrestrial Before The Beginning
Sounds Like
Greed Techniques
All The Same
Present over perfect
William: This reminds me of an interaction yesterday on the forum;
William:
Re: Is the Earth really ruled by Satan?
[Replying to myth-one.com in post #8]
I believe the earth was created for some purpose -- which probably included some form(s) of life.
Beliefs still require logical explanations. Saying that "the earth was created for some purpose" isn't helpful. What possible purpose could such a situation - one living dust-speck of a planet among a host of Galaxies - serve?
After creating mankind, YHVH commanded them to replenish and subdue the earth.
Yet this mythology you believe in has it that Satan ruled the Earth before the creation of humans.
Please explain why YHVH would place humans upon a planet ruled by apparently rebellious spirit-beings.
"Abandoned to its own fate" was my own poor choice of words.
Indeed. The mythology appears to be a poor choice too.
Lucifer and some of the angels under his control left the earth and warred in heaven:
My assumption is that they "abandoned" whatever functions they were assigned to perform on the earth during their war in heaven...
Perhaps that event is the cause of the earth's status in Genesis 1:2
So this mythology you believe in is more about your personal assumption and is very much based in 'perhaps' rather than having any certainly of purpose.
Do you think it is acceptable to be creating such mythology and expressing it as something which is actually truth?
The implication is that the earth requires some kind of upkeep or monitoring.
The implication is that this was seen as to being GOOD as far as YHVH was concerned. It was created that way from the go-get, as per Genesis One, and humans were created to be physical beings, able to find ways in which to take care of its physical nature.
There certainly are other things in the universe which could harm the earth.
And therein, YHVH created things that way, and - whether we choose to agree or not - YHVH proclaimed those things as GOOD - even that harm could come to them.
GM:
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Myriad: That's actually a rather nihilistic view.
Navigator: Well I am simply bouncing off of one popular theory of the universe -where that theory has the ending of said universe in entropy - so yeah...
Myriad: If the initial singularity contained the absolute sum of all data, then the subsequent evolution of the universe can add no additional data.
Navigator: Not necessarily - small variances can be created by changing the way in which it unfolds...from the way it unfolded in its prior lieftime.
Myriad: Therefore it accomplishes nothing, and has no possible purpose. (Kind of like a similar problem with a hypothetical creator god who is omniscient, and therefore cannot learn anything or experience anything new, and thus has no reason to actually create anything.
Navigator: Exactly - except that being omniscient would be the very reason WHY the creation of the Physical Universe was engineered - as a means to escape the omniscient condition.
And observing said Physical Universe, we can understand that it would be a great thing for that exact purpose.
A physical manifestation of a mental projection...the same would apply to the "many eternal universe theory" which J. Richard Gott explains...only with variety...and timelessness [since these are eternal - go on forever even that they all have beginnings...which would be a better way to do it if one would never have to suffer from omniscience again...always having something new to learn...
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GM: The Chestahedron
William: Search "Chestahedron"
FTL;
Remarkable Seven Sided Form
Part II: the Sentient Earth
GM: Tetragrammaton
Context
Faith
It is a confident walk on the even surface of sureness, without the faith.
William: FTL;
[Replying to TRANSPONDER in post #22]
TRANSPONDER:...so I postulated that there might be a mind controlling the universe, but not us. Not a personal god, not with a plan for us, and in fact a Deist -god. We were, effectively, as on our own as if there was no god there at all. So, if there was no Plan for human life, was there no meaning for human life? Was there no purpose? If not, why live at all? Why not just stop living?
I postulated differently, and it took many years of my life to learn the way I currently look at this situation I am [and apparently everyone is] involved within.
1: There might be a mind controlling the universe
2: There is a mind controlling me [my own mind]
3: There is no reason to believe that the mind controlling the universe is incapable of interacting with my own mind controlling me.
4: How to give the universal mind an opportunity to interact with me.
5: Religion and its main holy-books did not provide anything through which I could discover the way in which to achieve this interaction as it offered only mediums - foremost their own holy-books - but also laws, rituals, belief systems, preachers et al - none of which enabled me to make any actual and vibrant connection with this supposed universal mind.
6: It was almost accidental that I did find a way in which to make that connection, so deeply shielded from human awareness that it is, in the main, because of [5].
As a result, I have no choice but to reject the idea of the Deist GOD as something which opposes the idea of a personal GOD, because I have found that idea to being untrue.
As well, I do so on the grounds that it is not logical that any GOD-mind which controls the universe but not humans within said universe, is saying that the GOD-mind does not actually control the whole universe, but has left humans to control themselves, even that they are part of what -altogether - constitutes "The Universe".
The very nature of The Universe shows us that it is capable enough to accommodate the idea of allowing humans to feel that they make their own choices, especially if they are intent upon either depending on religious medium or intent on the belief that it is not possible to make said connection - individual mind to GOD-mind.
The purpose of this universe may well be nothing more than allowing for the opportunity for this to maybe happen for each individual who experiences it.
One has to want to do so, of course...
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Sweet Hush
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AquinasForGod post_id=1097207 time=1666849082 user_id=16526 said:[Replying to Wootah in post #1]
I believe I am a soul rather than have (possess) a soul.
To have a soul implies I am the body, which I do not believe.
I do not think it is difficult to define the soul as something that we can conceive of. It is just that many do not believe in anything other than the physical world.
I define soul as the metaphysical, rational being.
I think it is a mixture of personality self identifying with the human form and the transition from understanding oneself as just the form, to understanding oneself as the soul - the personality becoming more aware of what it was intended to become...to serve as both a soul and soul carrier...
GM: Random coincidence? I think not.
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1213 post_id=1092326 time=1663597989 user_id=7135 said:William post_id=1092235 time=1663521459 user_id=8427 said:...
The impression re the storyline is that the knowledge of good and evil was what caused death. The assumption was that the fruit had the power to give one that knowledge, since they were warned not to eat it....
I think that is a wrong impression. I don't think the fruit itself caused anything. It was the act of eating it that had consequences. It could have been any fruit and it would have had the same effect, if there would be the same conditions of eating it.
In which case, there is no reason why Adam and Eve could not have been allowed to eat the fruit after they had shown their resistance to temptation.
The test was done, the results were in, and the fruit of the tree was not what caused the eventual death of the pair [according to the storyline itself].
I did not say that the fruit caused anything or argue that the fruit had something within it which gave one the ability to know/have knowledge of, good and evil.
It was a prop which YHWH used as a means to an end.
Since there was nothing intrinsically special about the fruit, there should be no reason why the fruit could not be eaten by the pair, after they had resisted the temptation.
It was a deception because - in the biblical telling of it - God [as yet unnamed] - implied to Adam that the fruit itself had the power to give Adam knowledge of good and evil.
YHWH planted a seed into Adams mind, which then germinated into the eventual disobeying of YHWH.
All along, YHWH would have known that any death incurred after Adam disobeyed YHWH, would not be because the of the fruit that had been eaten but rather, because YHWH would have denied Adam access to the fruit of the tree of life.
This begs the question:
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Q: Why would YHWH create a being of nature and not instill that being with knowledge of good and evil, if indeed we agree that without morals, the human specie could not even get a foothold on the back of nature?
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Remember too, that the reason for humans being created was so that they would multiply across the face of the Earth and subdue it.
Since this requires the ability to survive, and since the ability to survive requires knowledge of what is good and what is not [re the reason] it was imperative that Adam also know.
[imperative=of vital importance; crucial.]
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GM: "Attempting to overlay/superimpose one's belief in the truth of stories as being more truthful than the main overall story itself, is possibly an act of immorality, if indeed - upon further evidence - one continues to attempt to have the superimposed thing used to conceal the real."
06:43
[The Future is Cloudy
Un-thought-unately
Functional Clusters
Error Correcting Codes
The Clear Light of The Void
Ruling your world
They were made to be unmade
More precious than life
Intelligent Awareness
For The Best Results
Look from a different angle
Hyper-normalisation
Chronological snobbery
Enough To Make Me Wonder]