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Jesus died on cross in 33 AD, first book of the New Testament was Galatians written as early as 48 AD.

Multicolored Lemur
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So, 15 years between the event and the first surviving writing.

Or, a little longer. Some scholars argue that 30 AD is a better date for Jesus’ crucifixion than is the more traditional date of 33 AD.

But even at date of 15 years, I mean if we go from 33 AD to 48, that’s still a problem.
Scooter

Apollos Waters

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This is a phrase that keeps coming up that is completely misunderstood by the one using it. Let's look at the phrase in it's Biblical context: 1 Corinthians 3:3-7 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, ....

The members of the church at Corinth were debating who had the best Christian experience. Some were saying they were better believers because Paul had led them to Jesus. Others argued they were better off because they grew more through the preaching of Apollos. Paul clarified their wrong thinking by showing praise isn't based on who leads a person to saving faith. conversion, or the first changing of souls; another is used for edification, or further building up of souls; but both conversion and edification are infinitely more from the new heart and new nature, which God giveth to souls, and from the influence of the Sun of righteousness by the Spirit of grace, working in and upon the soul, than from any minister, who is but God's instrument in those works.

I don’t believe there can be any other legitimate explanation of "Apollos waters".
M

Mark chapter 8 says Jesus would rise after three days, but Resurrection is later described as closer to a day and a half

Multicolored Lemur
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31 “Then Jesus began to tell them [his disciples] that the Son of Man must suffer many terrible things and be rejected by the elders, the leading priests, and the teachers of religious law. He would be killed, but three days later he would rise from the dead.”

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And later on, Jesus is described as dying on the cross around 3 pm on Friday. And he rises very close to 6 am dawn on Sunday.

That's 39 hours, which is just a little bit more than a day and a half.

And quite a bit different than 72 hours or three days.
AgnosticBoy

Where is Heaven and Hell located?

AgnosticBoy
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The Bible talks a lot about people ascending, starting with those like Enoch, Elijah, Jesus, etc. Does that mean that Heaven is somewhere above? Or maybe this is not literal?

Take Matthew 11:23,
23 And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted to the heavens? No, you will go down to Hades.
William

Beyond Ideomotor Effect

William
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Beyond Ideomotor Effect: Structured Intelligence in Randomized Systems

The ideomotor effect is commonly cited as an explanation for unconscious, involuntary movements that appear to demonstrate intelligence. It is often invoked in discussions on divination tools, Ouija boards, dowsing rods, and other methods that seem to produce meaningful responses without external agency. However, is this explanation sufficient .
AgnosticBoy

Why are Mormons not considered real Christians?

AgnosticBoy
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I had a talk with 3 Mormons a few weeks ago. One guy said that he believes both the Bible and the Book of Mormon, and that the Mormon Bible was just additional revelation.

What came to mind is why wouldn't God continue revealing himself in this day. Why stop at the book of Revelation?
M

grief hallucination(s) + “urban legend" as explanation for resurrection belief ? ??

Multicolored Lemur
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The Resurrection of Jesus is typically given the date of 33 AD.

And yet the earliest letters of Paul start maybe 50 AD. The Gospel of Mark is the earliest gospel is 70 AD or thereabouts, pretty much at the earliest.

In any case, a lot of time for "urban legends" to spread, get elaborated, the "better" versions to get repeated with even more energy, etc.
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