“Codex Sinaiticus” from 300s is complete copy of both Old & New Testaments?

[AgnosticBoy]

For some reason that link didn't open anything for me. Just keeps loading.

Codex Sinaiticus - Home

Codex Sinaiticus is one of the most important books in the world. Handwritten well over 1600 years ago, the manuscript contains the Christian Bible in Greek, including the oldest complete copy of the New Testament. The Codex Sinaiticus Project is an international collaboration to reunite the...

www.codexsinaiticus.org

This is the home page. Maybe next time you’re in a restaurant with free Wi-Fi ? ?

PS I hope it’s hosted in the UK!

It's up and working now.

Cool site. Made me feel like a forensic scientist being able to zoom in and out for each manuscript.

 

[Multicolored Lemur]

1. Trustworthy
2. Loyal
3. Helpful
4. Friendly
5. Courteous
6. Kind
7. Obedient
8. Cheerful
9. Thrifty
10. …
11. …
12. …

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This is the “Scout Law” from Boy Scouts, and I think it’s a perfectly fine list of virtues. In fact, I’d say it’s relatively easy to get started with a set of ethical beliefs as long as you’re not too terribly picky. And then of course, you refine and improve it based on your experience as a human being.

When I was about 12, I “chomped at the bits” at the supposed virtue of being “obedient.” But I think it’s probably healthy for a 12-year-old to chomp at that.


PS What 3 virtues might you add to this list?

 

[AgnosticBoy]

As an adult...
10. Gentlemen
11. Mature or professional (but willing to let loose some in causal settings)
12. Rational

In my teen years into my early 20s, I would've had much different things on that list.

 

[Multicolored Lemur]

Author info: Constantin von Tischendorf - Christian Classics Ethereal Library

www.ccel.org

“ . . Codex Sinaiticus at St. Catherine's Monastery (located near Mount Sinai). The manuscript, dated around AD. 360 to 375, is one of the two oldest vellum (treated animal hide) manuscripts of the Greek New Testament. The first time he visited the monastery (1844), he retrieved several leaves of an ancient Septuagint from a wastebasket. Many other leaves, he was told, had already been used to stoke fires! On another visit (1859) he was shown a copy of the Greek Scriptures (containing books of the Old Testament and all of the New Testament) by the steward of the monastery Recognizing it as the oldest extant copy of the Greek Scriptures, Tischendorf attempted to purchase the manuscript but was refused. After making a transcription of the text, he did some political maneuvering wherein the czar of Russia was given the manuscript in exchange for favors conferred upon the authorities of the monastery. . ”

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Maybe the Russian Czar indirectly arranged favors for this monastery in the Middle East?

Or this monastery is in the broad Orthodox tradition, as is the Russian Orthodox Church?

 

[AgnosticBoy]

That's really interesting Lemur.

I think a lot of manuscripts are still left to be found. The Dead Sea Scrolls are probably the biggest find yet based on what it contains and just the huge amounts of manuscripts found. I'm sure archaeologists like kids when they find this stuff.

 

[Scooter]

1. Trustworthy
2. Loyal
3. Helpful
4. Friendly
5. Courteous
6. Kind
7. Obedient
8. Cheerful
9. Thrifty
10. …
11. …
12. …

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This is the “Scout Law” from Boy Scouts, and I think it’s a perfectly fine list of virtues. In fact, I’d say it’s relatively easy to get started with a set of ethical beliefs as long as you’re not too terribly picky. And then of course, you refine and improve it based on your experience as a human being.

When I was about 12, I “chomped at the bits” at the supposed virtue of being “obedient.” But I think it’s probably healthy for a 12-year-old to chomp at that.


PS What 3 virtues might you add to this list?

Brave
Clean
Reverent

These are the three you omitted

 

[Multicolored Lemur]

The Dead Sea Scrolls are probably the biggest find yet based on what it contains and just the huge amounts of manuscripts found

I’m sure the archaeologists were like kids on Christmas morning!

They were found in clay pots with pretty good lids in a cave high on a cliffside, right? Wasn’t it something like this?

 

[Multicolored Lemur]

Brave
Clean
Reverent

And I think this is a pretty good combo of virtues.

Yes, we’re going to be brave, towards a good purpose, and the methods I use matter, too.

 

[AgnosticBoy]

The Dead Sea Scrolls are probably the biggest find yet based on what it contains and just the huge amounts of manuscripts found

I’m sure the archaeologists were like kids on Christmas morning!

They were found in clay pots with pretty good lids in a cave high on a cliffside, right? Wasn’t it something like this?

I'd bet they were.

In fact, they still continue to find stuff, even as recent as 2021:

In March 2021, Israeli archaeologists announced the discovery of dozens of fragments bearing biblical text, written in Greek, from the books of Zechariah and Nahum. This group of findings is believed to have been hidden in a cave between 132 and 136 CE during the Bar Kokhba revolt.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls

It's too bad that we likely won't find any New Testament material in those caves because the Essenes, the ones that wrote them, lived before that period.

 

[Multicolored Lemur]

From Google AI —

“While Saint Catherine's Monastery is generally open to visitors, including those of other faiths, it's essential to be aware of certain restrictions and guidelines. The monastery is a working monastery and a holy site, so respectful behavior and adherence to the dress code are expected.

“Here's what you need to know:

• Opening Hours:
  “The monastery is usually open from 9:00 AM to 11:30 AM, but it's closed on Sundays, Fridays, and Greek Orthodox Holy Days.”

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This is pretty neat.

You can respectfully visit this holy site. I’d also like to visit a Native American holy site, as well as a Buddhist holy site.