Pray for Pope Francis, and for what he prays for.

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Pope Francis left a last will and testament before his death. Read the full text.

In the will, dated June 29, 2022, Pope Francis wrote that with the "feeling that the sunset of my earthly life is approaching," he wished to express his preferences for his burial.
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“Feeling that the sunset of my earthly life is approaching and with lively hope in Eternal Life, I wish to express my testamentary will only with regard to the place of my burial. I have always entrusted my life and my priestly and episcopal ministry to the Mother of Our Lord, Mary Most Holy. Therefore, I ask that my mortal remains rest awaiting the day of resurrection in the Papal Basilica of Santa Maria Maggiore. . . ”

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And Pope Francis’s will continues, basically that he buried simply and respectfully. And he’s already arranged payment in advance.
 
Multicolored Lemur said:
I have always entrusted my life and my priestly and episcopal ministry to the Mother of Our Lord, Mary Most Holy.
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If the Pope entrusted his life to Mary, he didn’t make it to Heaven. Unless he trusted Jesus Christ, he is in Hell. Mary doesn’t save. Jesus saves.
 
Scooter said:
If the Pope entrusted his life to Mary, he didn’t make it to Heaven. Unless he trusted Jesus Christ, he is in Hell. Mary doesn’t save. Jesus saves.
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He seems to have been one of the Popes that was easy to work with. You are right theologically-speaking but I do hope God cuts him some slack.;)
 
AgnosticBoy said:
Scooter said:
If the Pope entrusted his life to Mary, he didn’t make it to Heaven. Unless he trusted Jesus Christ, he is in Hell. Mary doesn’t save. Jesus saves.
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He seems to have been one of the Popes that was easy to work with. You are right theologically-speaking but I do hope God cuts him some slack.;)
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Being easy to work with does not permit anyone into Heaven. God cuts us some slack when He gives us opportunity to be saved. If anyone places their faith in anything or anyone except Christ, they reject the slack God cuts them. The result is Hell. Even if it is the Pope.
 
Scooter said:
If the Pope entrusted his life to Mary, he didn’t make it to Heaven. Unless he trusted Jesus Christ, he is in Hell. Mary doesn’t save. Jesus saves
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This seems very rude. :p

But I think I get it. You think avoiding hell is so crucially important that it’s worth risking rude.
 
AgnosticBoy said:
He seems to have been one of the Popes that was easy to work with. You are right theologically-speaking but I do hope God cuts him some slack.;)
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Okay, alright, John 3:16 says — “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son so that anyone who believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”

Please notice that this is only saying belief.

It’s the letters of Paul — Galatians, Ephesians, Corinthians, and all the rest — which add the concept that Jesus paid the penalty for us.

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And another thing, Did the Romans really have a tradition of letting a prisoner go scot-free on a holiday?
 
Multicolored Lemur said:
Scooter said:
If the Pope entrusted his life to Mary, he didn’t make it to Heaven. Unless he trusted Jesus Christ, he is in Hell. Mary doesn’t save. Jesus saves
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This seems very rude. :p

But I think I get it. You think avoiding hell is so crucially important that it’s worth risking rude.
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You seem to confuse honesty with being rude. You quoted the Pope as declaring he entrusted his life to Mary. However, Mary did not die for his sins, Jesus did. Mary cannot save anyone so if the Pope was hoping Mary could save him, he was sorely disappointed.

BTW, avoiding Hell is the most critically important issue mankind must address.
 
Multicolored Lemur said:
And another thing, Did the Romans really have a tradition of letting a prisoner go scot-free on a holiday?
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The Gospels say so, like Mark 15:6, 7
6 Now it was the custom at the festival to release a prisoner whom the people requested. 7 A man called Barabbas was in prison with the insurrectionists who had committed murder in the uprising.
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Found one analysis that says it was likely not a custom...
Third, that the custom of releasing a prisoner finds no attestation beyond the Gospels is said to be an argument from silence: “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence”.

A response is that one should expect to find such evidence of these supposed “customs”. Here custom indicates a repeated practice; consider Mark’s references suggesting Pilate’s releasing of a prisoner being a regular “custom at the festival to release a prisoner” and that “The crowd came up and asked Pilate to do for them what he usually did” (emphasis added); according to New Testament scholar Helen Blond, “Mark’s account implies that the amnesty was a custom which either Pilate had introduced himself or had inherited from his predecessors and seen no reason to discontinue” (10).

Yet such a custom is not attested in various independent sources from which historians learn about the Empire and its punishment of criminals. This absence of evidence charge is weakened and the story becomes suspicious, and especially so when it is combined with other factors in the Gospels, such as the apologetic motives, as well as the unlikeness of a governor like Pilate releasing an insurrectionist against the Empire.
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Source...https://jamesbishopblog.com/2022/06/23/is-pontius-pilates-custom-of-releasing-prisoners-historical-the-barabbas-episode/

Here's from Dr. Bart Ehrman:
I should point out that we don’t have any evidence of any Roman governor, anywhere, in any of the provinces, having any such policy.
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Source: https://ehrmanblog.org/pilate-released-barabbas-really/
 
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