William

Novice Mystic
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We Exist Within A Creation [WEWAC]

Greetings

Why am I here?

I became a member of this forum because it gives me the opportunity to examine the position of Agnosticism and currently consider my position an Agnostic-Theist-non Religionist.

I have been an active member of a Christian debate forum for many years and joined that group specifically because it had a fair mix of skeptic and Christian members and I saw it as a great place to test my theories based on my subjective experience, to see if either Christians or Skeptics could debunk what I had to offer.

After many years and going through a few cycles I have come to the conclusion that what I had to offer was unable to be debunked.

Now I turn to my fellow Agnostics.

Can Agnosticism debunk my theories?

If not, then I can drop the word Agnostic from my position and fully embrace Theistic Thinking as aligned with my subjective experience.

For now, my confirmation bias is Theistic.

I lean toward accepting the following;

We exist within a creation.

While that implies a creator, it is presently unknown as to the makeup of such an entity. Also, existing within a creation does not just imply one creator.

The creation is the game-board.

Life-forms are the players.

We are involved in Role-Play.

While we experience individuality, we are nonetheless an aspect of a Team-Entity, some who are on this side of the game, and others who play the game from outside of the game.

At the source, we are all connected, but we could not play the game if we were fully conscious of that reality.

One of the effects of The Game is to create personalities - characters - avatars et al....the creation of individual persons is largely the roll of those Team Members outside of The Game - viewing the game on many levels rather than on just the level of individual awareness of being a human. Thus the gameboard is seen as an object from outside of said object.

Why the game appears to be so real is because it was designed for that purpose.

There is no good or evil intention on the part of the game-creator/creators in the designing and activating of the game. All concepts of G&E are created by the avatars playing rolls within The Game.

Another game is created as a ripple-effect of this game in that human imagination instigates the formation of 'worlds' which can be experienced by the individual personality created in the first game, when he exits this game and enters the next. These human-imagined creations can be experienced as real, by the imagineer.

There are levels within the human created games which eventually merge with the greater reality of the players who created and oversee the first game-board.

An individual personality can advance through levels of the human imagination gameboard worlds and reconnect with their Team. Their Team is with them always as they continually track the individuals progress.

The Team are individuate Eternal Entitles who have never not existed. Individual humans are the same [in essence] but have chosen to put on the costume of form the game provides and play within the game. This involves having to completely let go of all prior knowledge of ever having existed.

I could go on, but I think the picture I am presenting is complete enough to be coherent.

Cheers

William
 
Welcome to the forum, William!

I like the way you developed your philosophy. It's very harmonious. I'd be interested in knowing how it translates into different areas (assuming it is meant to be) of life such as morality, free-will, how it relates to other religions, etc.

I look forward to reading your posts.
 
Just out of curiousity.. what is your avatar? What does it mean?

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Actually, I realized what it is and what you were using it for since you mentioned it in another thread. For those who are also curious... It's a compass like or communication device that William uses (explained here).
 
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I'd be interested in knowing how it translates into different areas (assuming it is meant to be) of life such as morality, free-will, how it relates to other religions, etc.

Morality is a thing created by humans, as is religion and the idea of free will. Those things translate as aspects of human imagination re the next phase and are all part of the process of forming and maintaining belief systems which carry over into the next reality experience of each individual.
 
Were you ever a religionists of any kind, at one point?
 
No.

I dabbled as a matter of necessity in examining different branches of Christianity, and I came into the mysteries via that branch, since I was born in the West.
 
Are there any books, movies, or thinkers that influenced your views? Some of your views sound similar to The Matrix!
 
No. What influenced my views was and still is, my subjective experience.

Books and movies et al are, of course, part of my subjective experience so they serve to give confirmation that my thoughts are alined with what is.

Like the Matrix Series for its parables with this reality experience...
Neat background you have chosen for the forum backdrop.

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Neat background you have chosen for the forum backdrop.
Thanks... Maybe it will lead members and visitors to question reality more ;)

It's all perspective:
 
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I am examining the position of agnosticism/agnostic re "mysticism" [of theology].


I’m interested in mysticism.

Long ago when I was 26, I had a girlfriend who was both Christian and Pagan. And even though it didn’t work out, I still have fond memories of her. I wouldn’t mind finding a Christian-friendly Pagan group which is open to people with a variety of viewpoints. Plus, I am interested in such things as lucid dreaming (which I understand is a subtle phenomenon, but a neat one).

But at the end of the day, yeah, I’m probably going to remain an atheist. - Source
The part in bold is the part that confuses me as it is sandwiched between opposites.

I feel I have sufficiently tested my theories out with [so-called] atheists and Christians and these have not being debunked so mostly now, all I get in those realms is silence so I have moved on.

I did not join this forum to get into discussion with atheists re religion [Christian or otherwise] and nor with agnostics - although I allow for the possibility re agnostics that I will learn something new in that department due to the different approach agnosticism can take re the subject of religion.