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this is broadly, i guess universally? translated as “to them,” when i suggest that “from them” might be more easily established, but you decide, https://biblehub.com/lexicon/romans/8-1.htm There is, after all, plenty of condemnation to them who are in Christ, which the Bible even details, even...

You live in a miracle right now; go find it

theyll prolly toss some bad guys? Be nice if they just fixed immigration

Im sure even Trump recognizes that we are in a pop decline, and new blood is required? Iow i doubt that there will be any mass deportations, even if we are starting to see that bandied about

im a theist, or a deist, prolly in the middle somewhere, dunno; so i would define agnostic a bit differently, but meh

"You used to be much more...muchier. you've lost your muchness." MHatter

Im not sure what Jesus had in mind there tbh, so im trying to envision that; seems like we’re all damaged some kind of way, which the Bible even talks about being crushed, which idk if that is related or not, but i wonder if it isnt about overcoming our essential shortcoming maybe? Which might...

Relax; nothing is under control

Which i know seems like a kind of wordy way to ask that, but i wanted to get “want” in there. And i made it a poll for some reason. Ok bye Oh ya and i put it up here just to mess with AB, bc i was bored :D Move it if you want lol Oh ya so, im not much on competition and the whole winner/loser...

politics is such a great divider innit

Well, you might be right, and im open to any instruction on where i might be off ok

So just nevermind what the Bible says? lol ok

Well, i think hitler went to the grave, as we all will, since he was a soul. So it would be more like hitler as a little child, maybe?

Although, “the dead” apparently refs the soul and not the spirit in John’s vision—which i would again caution against taking too literally—there does seem to be some overlap in the def of soul and spirit, too; one is breath, the other wind, so kinda similar? Prolly best to decide for yourself...

no “spirit” in there at all scooter. nuff said

“The reality is not that the ancient people told literal stories and we are now smart enough to take them symbolically, but that they told them symbolically and we are now dumb enough to take them literally” JDCrossan

if only you could Quote that, huh

Fwiw a study of the two “eternals” with aionos and aidios delineated is pretty interesting, not that i would attempt the subject without first understanding the cult of sol And just for the record, the spirit returns to God, Who gave it, right? Which is why i dont get too plexed up about where...

i never said that there were no instances of “forever” in the Bible, Scooter, and what is clear is that, as you have already stated, you would rather die than change your mind. Which i even remember, btw; it is the essence of being under the law, and eating the fruit of knowledge, but i guess...

“It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows” Epictetus