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Unreasonably proud...perhaps. can you cite examples? Ty.

Yes, DP. I left it here and on the thread you recommended. Also, I'm proud to be agnostic.

Some do believe agnostics are weak fence-squatting atheists, but that means nothing.

I still consider myself agnostic and not atheist or theist. I wrote this today in an atheist versus theist group: Yeah, it gets worded that way often nowadays but it's not accurate in practice even for those who make the claim and it is not compatible with a deep dive in philosophy and logic...

I wrote this today in an atheist versus theist group: Yeah, it gets worded that way often nowadays but it's not accurate in practice even for those who make the claim and it is not compatible with a deep dive in philosophy and logic. Now, if most people really "thought" this way and treated...

Thank you for this! I had a difficult time in an unnamed few atheists versus theist groups with members who were adamant that agnosticism is not separate from atheism or theism; the hard demarcations between 'knowledge' and 'belief' made it challenging to have a legitimate discourse.

Sure, passive atheism might meet the definition, whereas positive atheism would not, but atheism seems to require a cognitive choice or external influences exerted upon such cognitive choices, whereas agnosticism can simply exist without a choice at birth or later as a result of influences and...