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Multicolored Lemur

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31 “Then Jesus began to tell them [his disciples] that the Son of Man must suffer many terrible things and be rejected by the elders, the leading priests, and the teachers of religious law. He would be killed, but three days later he would rise from the dead.”

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And later on, Jesus is described as dying on the cross around 3 pm on Friday. And he rises very close to 6 am dawn on Sunday.

That's 39 hours, which is just a little bit more than a day and a half.

And quite a bit different than 72 hours or three days.
 
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Meaning, the Bible can be wrong, and on some pretty significant things.

I think mature Christians are guided by more by a regular prayer life and the next step which they feel God is leading them to take. And they're less likely to get hung up on particular verses, whether it's chastity and not getting married, or whether it's the so-called blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. And that one in particular, for Christians who tend to have a more nervous type of personality, has gnawed and worried at a lot of people through the ages.

I think Billy Graham said you can only have committed this sin if you're dead, meaning that you went your whole life rejecting God.

I say, a few stray verses can be wrong, especially when it goes against the overall message of forgiveness for whatever you've done.

Just like “three days” is not the same as “on the third day.”
 
The Bible is not wrong on anything. Does the Bible specify Jesus would arise after 72 hours? Nope. Jesus spent parts of three days in the grave (Friday, Saturday, Sunday). Instead of trying to fit the Bible into our thinking, we need to accept what the Bible says at face value and realize the only discrepancies are in our thought process and understandings.
 
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This is quite interesting. The Greek word translated as "after" is the word "Meta". This word is most often translated as "with" in the Bible. So, it could be translated as And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and with three days rise again.

Again, the problem is not with the Bible.
 
The Bible is not wrong on anything.
you might be setting people up to fail

When I was an evangelical Christian at age 14 and the beginning of age 15, I might have benefitted from relaxing my view that every word, every comma in the Bible is true, especially the New Testament, and most of all, especially the 4 Gospels.

I might have benefitted from hearing the viewpoint that the four Gospels are like four different people witnessing something rare and marvelous, and of course they're going to get some of the details wrong.

* except the Gospels most likely are not eyewitnesses. And the names “Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John” are not on the earliest versions, they are merely traditional names we added later.

I had a pretty hard come-down from fundamentalism. Not every evangelical Christian is a fundamentalist, but I was.
 
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Please see bar graph in about middle of this page.

Identify as evangelical or born again —
40% say Bible is “actual word of God”
51% “inspired word of God”
8% “ancient book of fables”

Okay. So, even among evangelical Christians, you're starting off with 51% saying “inspired word.” In my mind, this means not every word and comma is true. But different people may think different things when asked this question.

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Attend almost weekly/monthly —
25% say Bible is “actual word of God”
65% say Bible is “inspired word of God”
10% say “ancient book of fables”

And among more mainstream Christians, you get some additional shifting from “actual” to ”inspired.”
 
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True faith in Jesus Christ does not rest in popular opinion. The majority of religious people in Jesus’ day did not believe He was the Messiah. That didn’t change the truth that He is. So whatever popular belief about Jesus is held today, it is completely irrelevant if it opposes the truth. And I know this will sound arrogant, but since the Holy Spirit dwells in me, I know the truth because He teaches me the truth.
 
31 “Then Jesus began to tell them [his disciples] that the Son of Man must suffer many terrible things and be rejected by the elders, the leading priests, and the teachers of religious law. He would be killed, but three days later he would rise from the dead.”
I say, a few stray verses can be wrong, especially when it goes against the overall message of forgiveness for whatever you've done.

Just like “three days” is not the same as “on the third day.”
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I agree with your point here but I also believe that a different conclusion can be reached other than saying this story is false. I believe it is partially false in that the story is exaggerated or made to fit a theological narrative.

The only reason I'm willing to give the writers the benefit of the doubt here is because I accept that the resurrection did occur which I've explained here. Scooter might also be on to something if we look up the word in the Greek.
 
The only reason I'm willing to give the writers the benefit of the doubt here is because I accept that the resurrection did occur which I've explained here.
So, you're saying there's more than than a kernel of truth? And that's fine if you are.

Now, I don't know for sure, of course. I'm just saying that people can take a small amount and run a long way.

For example, maybe Christianity started with just one person, the Apostle Peter, having a vision and being emphatic about it and being enthused about it and telling a lot of people.
 
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